Comparison
ID · Indonesia

Jakarta

11,135,191 residents-6.18°, 106.83°
CN · People's Republic of China

Shenyang

9,070,093 residents41.80°, 123.43°

Jakarta and Shenyang, side by side.

01 · Basics

At a glance

Population
11,135,191
9,070,093
Metro populationno data
Area (km²)
662
12,859.89
Density (per km²)no data
Elevation (m)
8
55
02 · Climate

Weather, month by month

Solid lines are monthly highs, dashed lines are lows (°C).
Jakarta high low Shenyang high low
Jakarta vs Shenyang monthly temperature-20°-15°-10°-5°10°15°20°25°30°35°JFMAMJJASOND
Avg annual temp (°C)
no data
9.6
Annual rainfall (mm)lower is better
no data
763.8
Sunny days per yearno data
06 · Vibes

What locals say

Synthesized from upvoted comments on each city's subreddit.
Jakarta

Jakarta feels like a huge, constantly moving city where convenience and chaos sit side by side. People who like dense urban life praise the malls, food, transit, and the sense that the city is still raw and local rather than fully polished for tourists. The biggest frustrations are predictable: traffic, pollution, flooding, pedestrian-unfriendly streets, and the mental fatigue of getting around for ordinary errands. At the same time, many residents and visitors describe Jakarta as warm, sociable, and full of small pleasures if you can tolerate the friction.

Common complaints
  • Traffic and commuting5
  • Pollution and heat4
  • Lack of walkability and outdoors3
  • Flooding and urban disruption3
  • Social isolation and hard-to-find community3
Common praises
  • Food variety and eating out5
  • Friendly, welcoming people4
  • Big-city energy with local character4
  • Malls, transit, and modern infrastructure4
  • Nightlife and live music2

“At the first glance, Jakarta looks so promising. It has the density, warm climate, low prices, friendly locals, lack of tourists... it could be great, maybe better than Bangkok. However, in daily life, it fails over and over again, in ways which are fundamental and can't be fixed. The air is poison, literally. I get a headache after breathing it for an hour or two. The city is outright pedestrian-hostile, with worst walkability I've seen anywhere. Traffic is infamous, you aren't going anywhere easy.”

r/Jakarta· 14 votes

“Honestly, I find the city really charming. It has a kind of vibe that’s getting harder to find in Bangkok (which I love) because of overtourism. It’s not very touristy, so the experience feels more local.”

r/Jakarta· 71 votes
Shenyang

Shenyang comes across as a practical, history-heavy northern Chinese city where daily life is defined more by routine, weather, and local neighborhoods than by big cosmopolitan flash. People describe it as very safe and easy enough to get around, but not especially polished compared with cities like Shanghai or Dalian. For foreigners, it can feel a bit isolating: English is limited, local groups can be inactive, and curiosity from strangers is normal enough that being stared at is part of the experience. At the same time, there are clear social and cultural anchors like the palace, Xita/Korea Town, parks, spas, and a small but usable expat/nightlife circuit.

Common complaints
  • Limited English and integration3
  • Social isolation / hard to make friends3
  • Being stared at or standing out2
  • Less attractive than coastal megacities2
  • Inactive online/community groups2
Common praises
  • Safety4
  • History and landmarks3
  • Convenient airport access2
  • Korea Town / food options2
  • Small but real expat scene2

“Shenyang is very safe. You can walk the streets at night without being harassed. There's a huge Korean contingent as well. It's not a very nice city compared with say Shanghai or Dalian, but it's very safe.”

r/Shenyang· 1 votes

“Go have a beer at black sheep, or have a meal at Mikey’s. preferably after 8pm. ( thank me later )”

r/Shenyang· 1 votes
07 · Culture

Food & nightlife

Jakarta
Food

Jakarta’s food culture sounds broad, cheap-to-upscale, and deeply woven into daily routines. People mention warungs, kaki lima stalls, mall food courts, seafood, Indonesian comfort dishes, coffee, sambal, durian, and late recovery meals after a night out. Even visitors who were otherwise stressed by the city often single out the food as a major reason to come back. The overall impression is not of one signature cuisine, but of a huge city where you can eat constantly and still keep discovering new places.

Nightlife

Nightlife seems active and social, but not uniformly clubby or glamorous. One post asks for clubs where people actually mingle rather than sitting at tables, which suggests that the scene can feel segmented between open, welcoming venues and more exclusive spots. There are also mentions of live music, bossa nova, and general nightlife being “hot,” so the city clearly has options for people who want to go out, drink, and meet others. Still, it reads more as a practical big-city scene than a single, defined party district.

Shenyang
Food

The food scene sounds neighborhood-based rather than flashy, with a notable Korean influence around Xita/Korea Town and a few foreigner-friendly spots people actually mention by name, like Black Sheep and Mikey’s. That suggests you can find both local northeast-Chinese food and a small number of reliable Western or mixed options, especially later in the evening. For a visitor or new resident, the city seems to reward knowing specific districts and venues instead of expecting a huge, obvious dining scene everywhere.

Nightlife

Nightlife appears modest and localized, with people pointing to a couple of known bars and late-evening hangout spots rather than a sprawling club scene. The comments imply a social drinking culture more than a big party atmosphere: you go where other foreigners or regulars already gather, and after 8pm is when some places get active. Overall it sounds like the kind of city where nightlife is enough to have a beer and meet people, but not the main reason anyone moves there.

08 · Reality check

Weather vs. what locals say

Jakarta
By the numbers

How locals feel

The travel-guide version of Jakarta is hot, polluted, and rainy, and Reddit mostly confirms that—but locals often describe those conditions in more visceral terms. It is not just “humid” or “smoggy”; people talk about headaches from the air, gray haze, heavy rain, flooding, and days that feel physically draining. At the same time, the weather is folded into city identity, so rain, smog, and heat are treated as part of the deal rather than a surprise. Visitors sometimes romanticize the atmosphere, but residents tend to talk about it as one of the city’s main costs.

Shenyang
By the numbers

How locals feel

The available comments don’t give a lot of direct weather detail, but the city’s northern location and mention of hot springs/spas suggest a climate where cold weather is part of the lived reality. In practice, people seem to treat the weather as something you work around rather than romanticize, with indoor activities and spas as fallbacks when it gets harsh. If locals talk about the city’s feel, it seems tied less to sunshine and more to surviving winter comfortably and moving between heated places, transit, and neighborhoods.

09 · Summary

In short

Not enough data to form a verdict.

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